Past Review
By Kai L (Finance and Financial Management Services., SUNY - Binghamton) for
SUNY Oswego: Nice - IPAG, École Supérieure de Commerce
YES, my experience was worthwhile beyond my wildest dreams. Even with all of the problems that I experienced abroad, I cannot forget how many good friends that I made abroad that I sincerely wish I could do it again. The little things of dealing with the culture, and even the big things of dealing with the academic program, were of little importance when I remember how much I learned outside of the classroom. Though its invigorating as it is nerve-wrecking to be without textbooks, I now admit that there is a limit to how much can be learned from them. I chose this program because I didn't want to be in Paris, and wanted to appreciate another French city before I visited the city of lights. Even though it wasn't off the charts in all its facets, I am happy for selecting Nice as my student abroad location. I am a more independent person who thinks better in French, with friends across the EU, Switzerland, Russia, Brazil, and the US that I know I would see again in a heartbeat. Even if you don't choose this program, be sure to make study abroad one of your to-do list at all costs. There is an intangible benefit towards creativity you gain learning in a foreign language, an awareness you acquire from beliefs that are challenged, and lasting international friendships you build that you would never give up for anything.
Personal Information
If you took classes at multiple universities, list those universities here: | SUNY Oswego |
The term and year this program took place: | Fall 2009 |
Review Your Program
* Overall educational experience
Academic rigor, intensity, resources, etc. |
Do not be fooled by the school; the variety of international students who attend this university are top notch, and will become your friends long after you graduate. There is no other place that you will meet students from around the world (Russia, Brazil, EU countries, UK, US), and be able to truly say you have a global network of friends. French students and international students oftentimes do not mingle because of the language barrier, but the effort made to speak it has the most powerful influence on how close you become to French students. They are curious to help you integrate, and will return however much of yourself you give to them. Not enforcing the use of textbooks is a crying shame the university has yet to rectify. |
* Host Country Program Administration
On-site administration of your program |
There are three main people who run the school administration. They are always helpful whenever there is a problem with academics or not (apartments, overseas banking issues, translator, culture event recommendations, etc.), and I could not have functioned with them. However, they are overworked. The main online communcation medium, the Intranet, is not edited often for user friendliness. Instead of adjusting to students, it feels sometimes like its vice versa. This is reflected in the class schedules not being set on a weekly basis. Professors wear many hats, teaching at different universities, similar programs at IPAG, so their schedules can mean your class changes at a moment's notice. |
* Housing:
How satisfied were you with your living arrangements? |
14 Rue Meyerbeer, 4eme Etage (5th floor) Apartment with balcony. 2 br, living room, kitchen for 4 people, about 400 Euros/person a month. No elevator, no dryer, washer in the bathroom, 220 volt electrical plugs. Clothing must be air-dryed. Kitchen cookware, kitchen table, television, 2 beds, 2 futons provided. 30 minutes by foot to school, 5 minutes walking to beach, and close to the center of Nice. Buses were available two streets north, one Euro each ride, which arrive within a 1 minute walking distance of school. <br /><br /> Even without an elevator, my top floor apartment had an amazing view and great ventilation. It was spacious and had furniture included, though utilities were not paid. Finding an apartment will be another difficulty if your agency is not Gilletta Immobilier, recommended by the university. All lease terms are obviously written in French, but some agencies may trick you into paying more than what you owe precisely because you are a foreign student. A suggestion is to use Gilletta, or rent from a private landlord who you can directly communicate with. Nightlife is always available, though you are free to choose how much you become involved in it. It is not uncommon to host parties at your apartment, given it is large enough. Noise is often a problem, but dealing with the aftermath can strain your relationship. My own agency was capricious, brusque and unprofessional at times. Once, after several parties in a week, they notified us 15 minutes before arrival before immediately accosting us (yelling, pointing fingers, threatening to kick us out, being disgusted with the state of unkemptness all included.) Also, internet was not included. Our apartment only survived because someone lent us an SFR username and password that allows us to access several hotspots around France. Even when it was accessed, it was not reliable. One lesson is that Internet is not as abundant as it is in the US (nor is using public bathrooms!) and getting access to it will come at a price. Make friends with those who have internet access, use internet cafes, but for most of us it is imperative you must get your own internet connection at all costs. |
* Food: |
Although the majority of provisions were Italian cruisine, there were international themed parties where friends brought fares from their home countries to try. Southern French produce is high quality because the French do not tolerate having chemicals and herbicides to treat their food. One time, when I picked my eggs from the store, there was still a feather in the egg carton. Another time, lettuce I picked up from the store still had a snail on it. That is an example of how fresh it is. There are many ethnic restaurants from Northern African cruisine (Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, etc.) or Asia (Vietnam, China, Thailand). As American students, however, you would be most acquainted with the kebab shop, which usually cost about 5 Euros. Wine is often consumed with meals, but here it is an art to drink more for pleasure than purely getting inebriated. |
* Social & Cultural Integration:
How integrated did you feel with the local culture? |
There were so many opportunities I took to interact with other students everyday at their own apartments that I never got bored. Monaco is next door, which provides fun nighttime trips using public transportation. Integration Weekend in the Fall is a must--it is a party for 1st years French students, but int'l students are invited to join. The price tag is expensive, maybe around 150 Euros, but for transportation, accomodation, niçoise food, games, party, and networking, it is worth every penny you spend. Through this program, I became accustomed to a completely different way of living that liberated me from the monotany of US college education, but yet made me appreciate it all the same. The verdict: the experience of living in Nice is a real joy with the international students on this program. It is worth a semester and the tribulations that may come with it. |
* Health Care:
How well were health issues addressed during the program? |
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* Safety: |
Do not forget there is a two-step visa process that must be taken care of during your stay as a student. First, a Visa de Long Sejour (Long-Stay Visa) must be obtained before you arrive in France. This requires you to fill out a CampusFrance account online and bring proof of your study abroad at school. Second, a OFII (Office of Immigration and Integration) visa must be obtained after submitting paperwork within a month of your arrival. You receive an appointment for a checkup, answer health questions, and receive a sticker in your passport. However, be reminded that the French government is notoriously slow and inefficient with paperwork. Plan ahead and get all of your papers in as early as possible. |
If you could do it all over again would you choose the same program? |
Yes
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Finances
* Money: How easily were you able to live on a student's budget?
(1 = not very easy/$200+ on food & personal expenses/week, 2.5 = $100/week, 5 = very easily/minimal cost) |
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Not including program expenses, about how much money did you spend on food and other expenses each week? | For around 40 Euros (get a lot of pasta, tomato sauce, and white sauce from Carrefour/Casino), there was enough food to eat for about two weeks. Roughly, I planned for about 30 Euros to live on each week, not including apartment expenses. |
Do you have any general money-saving tips for future study abroad participants? | Buying clothing is not recommended in Europe in general, coming from the United States. Things are ridiculously more expense when you factor in about a 150% exchange rate for everything you purchase. Everything you purchase is generally the same price in numbers, but of a different curency. A strange, albeit uncomfortable way for some, that you can save on expenses is to go rummaging through trash at night. There are surprisingly great furniture, clothing, and sometimes food to pick up that are neatly packaged that will help student save money. |
Language
Language acquisition improvement? |
My pronunciation of French is now respectable, whereas before I could not visualize how I could ever speak the difficult subtleties. |
Other Program Information
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A Look Back
* What do you know now that you wish you knew before going on this program? | The academic program itself is frustrating because it is not of high standards, but looking past these experiences to those you gain with the students you meet is what makes this program worthwhile. |
Individual Course Reviews
Course Name/Rating: |
French Culture and Civilisation |
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Instructor: | Alavoine, Bouffet, & Di Rico |
Instruction Language: | English |
Comments: | One of the most interesting courses on why the French are the way they are. You will be exposed to information from tips adjusting to the culture, along with French cinema, press, music, politics, Constitution, and history that would be hard to learn by yourself otherwise. |
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French, Level 4 (6 being most difficult) |
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Instructor: | Di Rico |
Instruction Language: | French |
Comments: | Although I had only a year of French from my university before I arrived in Nice, this class helped me improve my speaking capabilities. At some point in the semester, you will be required to give an oral presentation without notes in French. Daunting at first, but so helpful in articulating your thoughts in French. |
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International Supply Chain Management |
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Instructor: | Scalabre |
Instruction Language: | English |
Comments: | Scalabre is world cultured, having lived in almost every continent except for South America and Australia. He often uses his own personal examples of agricultural entrepreneurship (ever heard of pheromone bug attraction techniques?) to illustrate how the supply chain functions in a company. |
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Financial Management |
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Instructor: | Lederman |
Instruction Language: | English |
Comments: | As with any finance course, a reliable textbook to review lessons are necessary. You will be supplied with only a syllabus, of which then you will have tutorials to review problems in relation to the most recent lesson learned. |
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International Marketing |
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Instructor: | McDonald, Prince |
Instruction Language: | English |
Comments: | Be sure to borrow the wide range of European and American textbooks on marketing from the school library. You are responsible for an end-of-semester project dealing with bringing a product from your respective home country (or of other students) and planning the marketing campaign and its implementation. |
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